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DJ Premier Talks Hip Hop & Rap in The Fish Bowl (E2) | Chalk Media

DJ Premier Talks Hip Hop & Rap in The Fish Bowl (E2) | Chalk Media

– Welcome to part two of The
Fish Bowl with DJ Premier. Preemo is gonna tell you all
about what it’s like to work with a ton of artists
including Jay-Z and KRS-One. Enjoy. (upbeat music) Actually I was talking to
somebody recently in the industry and they said like, Chuck
Berry, he used to, he’d show up, didn’t matter who was in the band. He’d play with, – [DJ Premier] Anybody. – [Chris] you know, 100
different people on tour. He’d say like, “Fuck it, I can show up
and I can rock and roll.” (upbeat rock and roll music) – Nice. – So you’ve got that end of the spectrum. But what’s the cerebral
end of the spectrum? Who have you worked with
that was very meticulous? And I don’t mean this in, it’s a negative, it’s just a different way of doin’ things. You can come up with some really– – Yeah, KRS-One’s meticulous, yeah. He’s, you know, he wants
it the way he wants it. ‘Cause, like you said, I
definitely have a coach approach where I’ll say, “Hey, your line, “you squeaked right there,
let’s come back and fix that.” Or, “You don’t sound “like you’re deliverin’ it right the way, “your lyrics are written proper,
but say it more like this.” “And like, I’m not tellin’ you how to rap, “but it’s not convincing
me as a listener.” – [Chris] The delivery. – Yeah, the delivery. And they’ll fix it. I’ve never had anybody fight me on it, you know, and stuff like that. But KRS-One is like, that’s
the way and that’s the way. – [Chris] And that’s
somebody who’s got clout. – Yeah, and that I looked up to. – And somebody who you
might think of as an icon. So you can, you’re more liable to work with somebody eye-to-eye. – I’m very selfish when it
comes to the recording process because that fan thing I
told you before is still, like no, in order for it to be where everybody’s gonna
really mess with it, it has to be this way that I vision it for the final outcome. Because I have a DJ mentality as well. And DJs, we’re meticulous. Because, well street DJs. I like to be considered a street DJ. Street DJs break records from just sayin, “That’s hot, I’m playin’ this.” My radio show that I do on SiriusXM, it strictly breaks bangin’
records that sound like the era of what we call the purest form. The purest form is dope beats,
dope rhymes, scratching, and just, it just has to sound like that. The ones that, you know a lot of people, they don’t have scratching
on it, we’re just like, “Yo, where are the scratches?” Same thing with mixtapes. “Oh, I’m puttin’ out a new mixtape.” No, mixtape in our era was DJs mixin’, and blendin’, and cuttin’ it up. Maybe some shout-outs, whatever. But it’s mixed. And now everybody’s doin’
a mixtape and I’m like, no, that’s a compilation
because it’s just some new songs and there’s no scratch,
it’s not a mixtape. – [Chris] Or it’s a lot of cool stuff. – Yeah, the definition got taken into a whole different context. And it’s like, who the fuck? – That’s disappointing ’cause I thought I had a
lot of mixtapes in college. (laughing) I used to have all the fuckin’, you know, I’d pay for like, DatPiff and all the, I probably had Got Purp? Volume 47. (laughing) And I thought I
had mixtapes, but I guess — – I still go to and grab stuff. – Yeah, okay, vote for DatPiff. – Yeah, but they’re not very (mumbles). – Yeah, yeah, obviously.
– And even me, I’m like, who the fuck changed this shit to mixtape? Where my mixtapes are mixtapes. There’s cuttin’, there’s
scratchin’, there’s blendin’. All those elements are
there where you’re like, “Yo, this shit is hot.
I’ma just keep playin’ it.” And, you know, I got (mumbles)
stack of my old mixtapes from back in the day.
– Love it, I love it. – And I don’t even know why I didn’t think about bringin’ these to you. – So yeah, I mean, like you talked about, I’d heard you say this before,
that my, in so many words, my scene is still here. You just have to know where to find it. – [DJ Premier] Absolutely. – So how do you reconcile wanting to be commercially
successful but stickin’ to, and this is more for artists, right? – [DJ Premier] Right.
– You can call the shots now. But like an up-and-comin’
artist who’s got the ability, how does somebody like a J Cole do both? Right, ’cause I would assume he sticks to the integrity of his music
and the lyrical content. – Well, either he was
educated by the right people, I remember DJ Dummy who was his DJ. He was also Common’s DJ. I know he just retired and shout to Dummy. And then his brother’s LS
One, DJ LS One is Onyx’s DJ. And Onyx, who had a nice
period of runnin’ things when they were doin’ their platinum years. But Dummy is what we call a battle DJ. Battle DJ, we respect as well because they’re from our cloth. You know, I’m not a battle
DJ but I do battle stuff. That makes battle DJs check for what I do when it comes to scratchin’. Because my, I love the
name that Guru gave me. He said I scratch with maddening accuracy. And I like that name. You know, so battle DJs, we’re another level of
the world of what we do. And we are so deep-rooted
into the underground that our education on the whole thing, we probably know every single part of it. So when he was on tour with
J Cole in his younger years, one day I was on the phone
with him for something, maybe he needed me to send him a song or something like that. I’m like, “Yeah, how’s
everything goin’ with Cole?” He said, “Man, good.” He said, “Man, you know
what I love about him? “He’s young.” But he said, “I showed him
some videos on the tour bus.” He said, “I showed him ‘Beat
Street’ and ‘Breakin.'” He said the next day
when he got on the bus, “He goes, ‘Yo, Ken-nay!'” ♪ Kenny is a DJ known a Double K ♪ ♪ And he says he’s gonna make it someday ♪ ♪ On Beat Street ♪ ♪ Beat Street ♪ – If you know “Beat
Street” you know the guy that played the manager would
always call Kenny, Ken-nay. And you gotta say it that way. ‘Cause then it’s like, “Oh, I know you.” You already know he’s
referencing that movie. Just like if you do referencing something from “Sopranos” or “Casino”
or “Goodfellas,” same thing. Or even “Scarface.” So he took it and was like,
“Wow, this is amazing.” Same thing with “Wild Style.” So the fact that he’s
now in love with our era that he missed as a child, he actually appreciates
it to where now his level of longevity is gonna increase because those things are very important in the culture of your
occupation and your profession. – Like when I think of
somebody aging well in hip-hop, I think of Jay-Z. You know, not to keep bringing him up. – [DJ Premier] No, he is, you’re correct. – But, to me, late 80s, you know he’s a totally different dude, with the heavy chains. And then in the mid-90s some
of his most iconic hits, and favorite albums of
mine at least, were in ’96. And then it spans, you know, 23 years to 2018 or
whenever 4:44 came out. It’s lyrically totally different. How does an artist get that staying power and how do they adjust
their lyrical content, their brand a little bit, and do that responsibly without
abandoning who they are? – I mean, for using the
most simplest terms, it’s like he gets it. He totally gets it. And that’s the thing that will
make you last is you get it. Like, you could take him back to talkin’ about the 70s
of hip-hop all the way up to knowin’ who Lil Baby is
and knowin’ who Juice Wrld is. You know, do you know who Post Malone is? You know, and even Mac
Miller, God bless him. You know, it’s like we know that stuff and we know their songs. But, and not all of ’em, but some of ’em. Most of them may not
know our songs or care. (upbeat music) – Thanks for watching part two
of The Fish Bowl with Preemo. Part three’s one of my personal favorites. He’s gonna be talkin’ a lot about some of the
knock-down-drag-out fights that he had with the
other half of Gang Starr. And that’s Guru who, God rest his soul, was
one of his best buddies. But left a couple scars on DJ Premier. So he’s gonna talk about that. And then also he’s gonna talk about the art of making
real hip-hop in 2019, which seems pretty difficult. So subscribe and check out part three.

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