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I’m Saving Christmas from Kirk Cameron | A Film Analysis by Maggie Mae Fish

I’m Saving Christmas from Kirk Cameron | A Film Analysis by Maggie Mae Fish


This year, all I want for Christmas is to
never write another video about Evangelical Christianity, ever again! From now on I will only talk about the things
I care about, The Little Engine that Could, The Film Pompeii starring Kit Harrington,
and everyone else’s feelings at the expense of my own. Now let’s talk about the 2014 film Saving
Christmas, starring Kirk Cameron, and produced by Liberty University. I know I can sometimes get down and be cynical,
which I’m trying to not be because I don’t think it’s very most productive, so talking
about this movie is going to be a real challenge, because it’s possibly the most cynical,
crass, materialistic thing ever created. Most of the movie is Kirk Cameron trying to
explain the “true meaning” of Christmas to his brother in law. “This is all wrong.” “No… You’re all wrong.” The two of them sit in a car, and Kirk tells
him various stories about the Bible and ancient Christianity. Usually in this type of the movie the brother
character would be atheist of questioning, but the weird thing is, the brother in law
is actually a devout Christian. “I look at what Christmas is, and I think
to myself: this cannot be what God wants.” The conflict is not between Kirk believing
in Jesus, and the brother in law refusing to believe. The conflict is between Kirk saying that material
objects are what make Christmas great. “This is a celebration of the eternal God
taking on a MATERIAL body.” And the brother in law arguing that Christmas
should be centered on the spiritual aspects of Christianity. “Explain to me how that Christmas party
honors and glorifies Jesus.” The brother in law is the devout one, and
the entire point of this movie is to argue that being devout and humble… is for suckers. Jesus actually WANTS you to be materialistic
and petty. “You’re all wrong.” Kirk is very blunt about this materialism. “Pull out your best dishes, your finest
linens, your nicest silverware. The biggest ham, hot chocolate, lights, presents,
giant hams. And don’t buy into the complaint about materialism
around Christmas.” It’s truly the closest you can get to a
prosperity gospel sermon without stepping foot inside an Evangelical Church, or if it’s
hurricane season, the closet you can get from being denied entry to an Evangelical Church. The main thrust of the film is the scenes
between Kirk and his brother in law, where they bicker for a few minutes in the car before
cutting to much a more cinematic vignette to illustrate Kirk’s arguments. In what comes across like rambling Facebook
posts from your boomer aunt, these vignettes include a completely nonsensical argument
about Jesus’s swaddling cloth. “What is this swaddling cloth? Is it just a blanket for a baby? The Bible brings this cloth back into the
story, one more time. At his tomb. The cloth in the tomb is empty, because it
could not hold the body wrapped inside. And because that cloth could not hold him,
death still could not win.” A vignette about how Christmas trees represent
the tree of life from the Garden of Eden. “The whole biblical story starts in a tree
lot.” Which is hilarious for many reasons, like
that this implies Adam and Eve betrayed God because they couldn’t resist gnawing on
pine cones. And a story where he argues that Saint Nicholas
is cool because he punched a guy in an argument over the Bible. “Smiting him on the cheek.” Kirk starts the film by saying that the stories
we tell ourselves are extremely important, because they shape who we become. “But the stories we hear and the stories
we tell shape us, and teach us how to live, by showing us how to live.” And to my core I believe that’s true. The narratives we tell ourselves end up shaping
our lives, for better or worse. But the way Kirk talks about stories, it becomes
clear that he doesn’t see stories as a way to make sense of the world around us, or bind
us together as a community. Kirk’s voiceover even refers to the swaddling
cloth as a “prop.” “By getting a look at this prop, we’ll
get a better idea of why he was born in the first place.” He’s referring to something in his own sacred
religious text as a “prop.” Is it just me? Is that not super weird? For me, a good story is more than just words,
more than just characters and “props.” They can be magical. A moving story can transcend the material
world. But for Kirk, stories are just another “thing”
he can acquire. Stories only have value to him as commodities
to be put to use. “You and I are in a story right now.” All of the details that Kirk focuses on in
his stories are either apocryphal, or weird distortions of Christian symbology. “This is doing what God does. He has always been giving gifts to his children
at the base of trees.” Or things that we have no way of confirming
because detailed historical records simply don’t exist–like the myth of Saint Nick
punching that dude. By saying that stories matter, and then picking
and choosing–or straight up changing aspects of stories to suit his goals–we get a great
picture of what Kirk is trying to do with the whole idea of Christianity: changes aspects
of it to be more beneficial to him. Throughout all of Saving Christmas, even when
Kirk is talking directly about Jesus and heaven, he can’t help but think in material terms. He says the manger that Jesus lays on represents
the rock that was rolled away from Jesus’s tomb, that his swaddling cloth represents
the cloth that Jesus was buried in, that the presents under the tree are the city of Bethlehem:
“A heavenly city, whose builder and architect is God.” That the food at the table is a tangible sign
of God’s love for you. I’m beginning to think that Kirk Cameron
is incapable of even conceiving of a place beyond the material realm. There is absolutely no spirituality in Saving
Christmas, there is only the material. There is no mystery, only convoluted false
logic. There is no supreme power of God, only the
power of money and what it can buy. There is no sense of faith, only the “story”
that Kirk tells himself to make himself feel like he’s the most special boy in the world,
and that he’ll never die. I can’t even imagine Kirk praying, because
praying requires a belief in something or someone outside one’s self. One story that is particularly dear to my
heart personally is the Grinch Who Stole Christmas. Listen, the world is bleak right now and it
can be hard to feel like “The Christmas Season” has any answers that we’re searching
for. But the Grinch has a great message: “Maybe
Christmas, he thought, doesn’t come from a store.” and reminds us of the joy and community and
love is what Christmas is about. Sooooooo it’s pretty wild that Saving Christmas
has the EXACT opposite message of this beloved story. Saving Christmas is like if the Grinch was
able to convince all the citizens of Whoville that the point of Christmas was to shrink
your heart. Or if A Christmas Carol ended with Scrooge
kicking Tiny Tim in the teeth. “Even Uncle Scrooge has a story, and he
has his reasons.” Or if, in the Bible, instead of raising Lazarus
from the dead, he just made it rain on his corpse. But aside from the overall narrative being
full of logic holes, the individual stories within the movie don’t make sense either. Like in the swaddling cloth vignette, Kirk
argues that the swaddling cloth somehow foreshadows the cloth that Jesus was wrapped in after
he was crucified. Honestly, it’s been hard to even write a
counter argument to the swaddling scene. Not because it is an airtight argument, but
because it’s so absurd, it’s like… where do you even start?? It’s like Kirk sees it as Chekov’s swaddling
cloth. It appears in act 1, so it has to appear in
act 3 or everyone in the theater will tear their hair out yelling: “But what about
athe swaddling cloth, man? When’s that coming back!?” The brilliance of Kirk’s argument is in
just how petty and absurd it is. The point is: to be that ridiculous. It’s a mockery of religion, and he’s banking
on the idea that you won’t stoop to his level to disprove him, so he wins by default. Or if you even try to engage him, he’ll
just toss more nonsense at you until you give up or give in. I’m trying to think of something else to
compare his logic to, especially his egotism and narcissism. The only thing I can compare his logic to,
is when Charles Manson was convinced that the Beatles wrote the White Album as a message
directly to him, to signal the impending race war. Wait–nobody let Kirk Cameron listen to the
White Album!! Get that out of his hands! Kirk’s commentary over these vignettes is
like a Christian version of CinemaSins or a Sargon video, where the goal isn’t to
be right, or make any kind of interesting point, but to overwhelm viewers with an unending
stream of information, so they don’t have time to stop and think about anything you’re
saying. I talked about this at length in my video
on Fight Club, where I discussed Peter Watkins and his “monoform” theory. Kirk gets to be “right” by nature of being
the narrator, even though his message is so removed from what Jesus actually said about
clothing the poor and helping the homeless. Just like Sargon assumes that the members
of his audience won’t question him because they’re hearing something that they want
to hear, Kirk Cameron assumes his audience won’t question him because they’re hearing
something that they want to hear. Kirk goes through the motions of doing a critical
reading of these Christian myths. Instead of doing an actual close reading,
they just show generic Biblical imagery, over the weird, vague, confusing voiceover. So you kinda FEEL like you’re learning something. What he’s doing is called “Bible Coding,”
which is when people claim there are “secret messages” within the Bible that have to
be decoded. It’s a way to make interpreting the Bible
as complicated as humanly possible, so that the simple, universal human truths like “be
nice to one another,” or “don’t murder” or “don’t worship golden idols” become
obscured. When you’re doing an analysis of something,
it’s important to make sure that the point you’re making is relevant to the quote you’ve
pulled, or the image you’re discussing, or the argument you’re trying to disprove. But Kirk doesn’t do this. He knows that the human mind is really good
at making connections where no connection exists. What CinemaSins, Sargon, and Kirk Cameron
do, is a perversion of critical thinking and close reading. Thank you, all my high school English teachers. As I mentioned before, one of the most surprising
things about this movie is that Kirk’s antagonist is not a heathen, but a devout Christian. In fact, the brother in law’s name in the
script is “Christian.” In Kirk Cameron’s “story” he’s oddly
calling out the problem: people who center their faith on Christ and Christianity. I want to point out how these movies decenter
Jesus, and in Jesus’s place, the producers center themselves. The producers and writers of these movies
not only avoid calling themselves Christians, they literally reject the title. Saving Christmas does this by naming the antagonist
“Christian.” Fireproof pretty much avoids using the word
Christian at all. “I’m glad this new faith is working for
you and mom, I really am.” And in I’m In Love With a Church Girl, we
get this: “We don’t like that word, ‘religious,’… I prefer ‘man of faith.” “So, uh, what was your religion again?” “I guess I’m a Christian, but we don’t
like to call it that.” When you call yourself a Christian, you’re
pretty explicitly saying that you are a follower of Christ. It’s right there in the name. But choosing to call yourself a “man of
faith,” instead of Christian? That’s totally abstract. You are simply “a person who claims to have
faith in some unspecified thing.” This distancing from Jesus’s message actually
has precedence in Christian theology. In his book Jesus of Nazareth, Paul Verhoeven
writes: “[A]fter he was crucified and, according to Christian tradition, ‘arose from the
dead,’ the resurrection became Christianity’s central tenet. It ‘proved’ that Jesus was the son of
God and that his death had been an act of redemption… And so the messenger (who proclaimed the kingdom
of God) was transformed into the message.” Early Christian leaders cared more about getting
people to believe that Jesus was a super human who came back from the dead, than getting
people to believe they should be nice to one another. Being a Christian meant accepting Christ the
messiah, rather than accepting Christ’s commandment to love one another. It meant simply being on team Jesus and wearing
the Team Jesus colors. And there’s a certain logic to that. If he didn’t come back from the dead, then
Jesus was just another one of countless prophets at the time, so why should you follow him
over anyone else? The problem is, when you focus all your attention
on the resurrection, you end up with fanatics who care more about the act of resurrection,
than what Jesus actually said. It meant you’d get fanatics who would defy
the teachings of Jesus, in order to coerce you into joining Team Jesus. “Convert now, or forever burn in hell. For now beings the Inquisition!” So, immediately after his death, during the
formation of Christniaty, Jesus’s message was already made secondary to his resurrection. Now, with the term “men of faith,” not
only is Christ’s message made secondary to his resurrection, but Christ himself is
made secondary to this nebulous idea of “faith.” And the thing about faith is, it’s absolutely
unprovable. It is totally invisible, internal, and personal. If the entire basis for your belief system
is just the word “faith,” you’re not actually saying you believe in anything. Faith in what? These movies have no understanding of the
Golden Rule, or any other unifying concept. There’s no guiding principle about how to
live your life. By calling themselves “men of faith,”
but never identifying what they have faith in, or what that means, they are giving themselves
the freedom to shift their belief system from one moment to the next, depending on what
material thing they want in the present. “Now see Christmas through new eyes.” These movies are philosophically empty, spiritually
hollow, and so, so cynical. The reason I got interested in this subgenre
of movie is of course, yes because they’re hilarious, but as I’ve continued to explore
the genre, they’ve really evolved into much more of a dystopian nightmare. When I watch Saving Christmas, I don’t get
the impression that Kirk Cameron has faith in anything. I wouldn’t even say he has faith in material
objects. His desire to acquire material wealth feels
more like a desperate attempt to deny his own existential dread. “Things we can see with our eyes and touch
with our hands. The biggest ham, and the richest butter, hot
chocolate, lights, giant hams!” When I watch Fireproof, I don’t get the
impression that Kirk Cameron is capable of loving anything. It’s all discussions of the material things
they hope will fill the massive hole where their love should be. When I watch I’m In Love With a Church Girl,
I don’t get the impression that Ja Rule loves the Cheetah Girl. “Goodness!” “No, I know, you gotta get it.” “I gotta take this one. I’m sorry.” I get the impression that he’s going through
the motions, putting on this little show to create a narrative for the cops so he can
get away with crimes. IT’s all about acquiring stuff and hoarding
things and desperately denying the fact that life is impermanent. Of course, no discussion of Saving Christmas
would be complete without talking about Liberty University. Just as Kirk tells the audience that it’s
very important for Kirk Cameron to have lots of money, an education at Liberty University
will teach you that it’s very important for Liberty University President Jerry Falwell
Jr to have lots of money. In the past year, a lot of shocking stories
have come out about Liberty University and Jerry Falwell Jr, including this one by Politico,
in which a senior university official with inside knowledge of Liberty’s finances says:
“We’re not a school; we’re a real estate hedge fund… We’re not educating; we’re buying real
estate every year and taking students’ money to do it.” These articles depict a “culture of fear”
at Liberty U, where students can be fined 25 bucks for attending a dance or 250 dollars
for attending a party with alcohol. Which is extremely weird because Saving Christmas
literally depicts a party where people dance and drink alcohol. So if they screened their own movie on campus,
I guess everyone in attendance automatically gets fined 275 bucks? I don’t know how that math works. I skipped that part in the Bible. Or is it Bi-ble. One theme I’ve hit over and over again in
this series on Evangelical movies is tax fraud and financial crimes. In the case of Liberty University, the preferred
sketchy behavior seems to be giving sweetheart deals to family and friends of Jerry Falwell
Jr. For example, Jerry Falwell Jr’s son Trey
bought a Florida property directly from Liberty University. So the son buys real estate from daddy’s
company. That’s not necessarily illegal, or even
sketchy, assuming everything is done above board and by the rules. But, according to an expert quoted in Politico:
“While it is possible for a nonprofit such as Liberty University to engage in financial
transactions … the most obvious regulation involves the nonprofit disclosing that the
sale took place—which, in this case, did not happen.” Oopsies, I forgot to report my crimes. And the thing is, with Trump in the White
House, of course Falwell is emboldened to scam people with an online university. Because Trump also loves scamming people with
online universities. In 2016, Trump was ordered to pay 25 million
dollars to settle two class action lawsuits, plus another lawsuit in New York, related
to the now defunct Trump University. And while I’m adding to Liberty U’s rap
sheet, as a nonprofit Liberty U is legally barred from engaging in political activity,
yet they produced shirts like these. Hey, you know what? Kirk Cameron, can you help everyone imagine
what it would look like if Jesus visited the Liberty University campus? “I want you to visualize this. Close your eyes and visualize this.” Researching Liberty University, there’s
this fascinating way that a lot of the Liberty University staff seem to distrust and even
resent Jerry Falwell Jr. You’ll often see quotes where they reminisce
of the old days, when Jerry Falwell Senior ran things. “‘With Falwell Sr., ‘you could feel
his passion and love for the Lord and others. He knew everyone’s names, their stories
and struggles. He was genuine and loving. And that love bled from the campus,’ a former
longtime university official said. ‘It’s a cold place now.’ ‘With [Jerry’s] dad, there were never
questions about his business dealings or whether he was profiting from a business deal.’” If only we could return to the glory days,
when Jerry Falwell Senior ran things with a kind and compassionate heart. Here, let’s listen to a few words from Falwell
Senior, to get an idea of what a true Christian sounds like. Here’s Falwell speaking two days after 9/11. “What we saw on Tuesday as terrible as it
is, could be miniscule if in fact God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies
of America to give us probably what we deserve. I really belive that the pagans and abortionists
and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative
lifestyle. The ACLU, People for the American Way, all
of them, who tried to secularize America, I point the finger in their face and say:
You helped this happen.” 9/11 is… my fault! But I guess it’s all about the stories we
tell ourselves, huh? Speaking of stories, here’s a fun story. “Another family that’s been so important
to Liberty’s growth and success, is the Green family that owns the Hobby Lobby retail
chain. They’ve given hundreds of millions of dollars
worth of properties to Christian ministries and universities over the years.” In 2017, the Department of Justice ordered
Hobby Lobby to return millions of dollars worth of stolen artifacts that they had smuggled
into the United States from Iraq. Hobby Lobby was collecting artifacts for its
Museum of the Bible in Washington DC. Steve Green, the president of Hobby Lobby,
described the Museum: “We want to present evidence for (the Bible). We don’t tell you that this book is true. That’s for the visitor to decide. But the evidence for this book continues to
show that the book is accurate in what has been recorded (in history).” So, Green won’t tell you the book is true,
except, he just did tell us that. But my point is, in the same way Kirk Cameron
feels compelled to collect stuff to prove that God is real, the Hobby Lobby collects
stolen artifacts in order to prove that God is real. They have a view of the Bible as perfectly
preserved, absolutely unchanged history. Where am I going with this? Hobby Lobby’s main goal is not to sell arts
and crafts. Its main goal is to destroy reproductive rights
in the United States. They were behind the 2012 lawsuit which led
to the 2014 Supreme Court ruling that allowed some private companies to deny birth control
access to employees, on “religious” grounds. So Jerry Falwell Jr and Hobby Lobby would
have you believe that birth control is, was, and always will be a big time sin, a central
aspect of their deeply held religious beliefs! Now here’s Jerry Falwell Senior speaking
in 1981. “I do not believe that abortion is a form
of birth control. I think abortion is the taking of human life. I look on birth control as a preventing of
the advent of life by responsible, intelligent human beings who are trying to plan their
families as they feel that they can probably take care of them.” Yeah, I don’t think these folks believe
in anything. They pretend to have these deeply held, ancient
beliefs. They claim to know–without a shadow of a
doubt–that Jesus said X, Y and Z two thousand years ago, or that Saint Nicholas punched
some guy one thousand and seven hundred years ago, but they can’t even get stay consistent
in their beliefs over the course of thirty years. Like this is literally Jerry Falwell Jr’s
DAD we are talking about. I bring up Falwell Senior to show that the
problems at Liberty University aren’t the result of one single person. The educational rot at Liberty University
extends beyond Falwell Junior. It extends beyond the classroom doors, beyond
the Liberty University campus, beyond Kirk Cameron. It’s cultural. And knowing it’s cultural, Liberty University
turns to movies, which are one of the most effective cultural communication tools we
have. And while Liberty University may be incompetent
at teaching students the skills they need to get good jobs after graduation; and while
Saving Christmas may be an incompetently made movie by traditional filmmaking standards,
both Liberty U and Saving Christmas are still extremely effective at teaching their intended
lesson. That lesson just happens to be: how not to
learn. Don’t ask questions, don’t be curious,
don’t show compassion for anyone else. I’d like to talk for a moment about another
extremely narcissistic character who has delusions of grandeur, and also happens to be named
Kirk. In Star Trek Five: The Final Frontier, Kirk,
Spock, McCoy, and young Santa all go to the center of the galaxy to visit a being who
claims to be God. And the supposed God demands that Kirk hand
over the Starship Enterprise, so that God can “spread his message.” “Bring the ship… closer!” While young Santa and McCoy are awe-struck
by the spectacle, Kirk realizes that it’s an odd request from a deity. “Excuse me. What does God need with a starship?” Yeah, what does God need with a starship? What does god need with ornaments or hot chocolate,
or “giant hams, stuffing fudge, Christmas cards, and more hot chocolate.” I really like Christmas, and I have a lot
of great memories evolved around Christmas, and I love the food, and it’s really the
one time of year that I get to go home and spend with my family. And I look forward to it every year. This script was really hard to write. For a lot of reasons. Thinking that this is how some people have
chosen to use their time here on earth, by scamming people out of their life savings,
using your creative energy to make the most cynical Christmas movie there’s ever been,
just kinda sucks. And this video was mostly hard to write because
a few weeks ago my Grams died. I loved her a lot and she’s a big part of
a lot of the reason I am who I am today, and you know, she’s given me all these memories
that mean so much more to me now because I won’t have any more. They’re the only ones I’ll ever get. I miss her sense of humor. She was the–might be the funniest person
that I knew. She always knew exactly what to laugh at. She had such a sense of the things that mattered
in life, and it wasn’t the things in her house. And it wasn’t the presents that I gave her
for Christmas, because they were all probably terrible. You know, I’d give her what I made in class. When Kirk talks about ham, and hot chocolate,
and ornaments, and ham, and other pressed meats there’s a thing that he doesn’t
seem particularly concerned with. And it’s the people sitting at the table
around him. We barely know any of their names, or how
they’re related to him. And the few names we do know, like Christian,
we only know because Kirk spent like a half hour berating him until he gave in. Not only does Kirk cameron seem to care more
about these things than the people around him, but you also don’t see any homemade
crafts from the multiple children attending this party. It’s all straight out of a catalogue. And you know what probably wouldn’t have
made my Grams happier in her last days? Stuff, Kirk Cameron. Stuff. Starships, or hams, any of your hams, any
of your decorations wouldn’t have done anything. What would that have done? What does this do for your Kirk Cameron? Does this make you happy? This? Does this make you happy? What does god want with this? What does god want with this set? Oh, that was our Christmas tree. We don’t need this! This, actually I like that snowman. You don’t need it. You don’t need it, Kirk Cameron. One day you’ll die, and you’ll realize
that. Merry Christmas! Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed this video, feel free to give
me a like and subscribe, and if you want to help me make more videos like this, head over
to patreon dot com slash maggie mae fish where you can support the channel. 2019 has been an amazing year, and I can’t
wait to show you what I have in store for 2020. Save martha.

100 comments on “I’m Saving Christmas from Kirk Cameron | A Film Analysis by Maggie Mae Fish

  1. The line about the swaddling cloths and the winding sheet comes out of the Church Fathers.
    This movie manages to butcher the metaphors, but make it stupid.
    And, I’m sorry for your loss.

  2. Thank you for making this video. I know that it was a difficult one for you, but it's extremely valuable. I hope you have a good Christmas.

  3. This sort of ideology is the main thing that the US has given to the world. Also, isn't it weird that we, the leftists cultural Marxists SJW atheists feminists end up being more actually Christian than the so-called Christians?

  4. Gish Galloping in Defense of the Gospel of Wealth: The Movie.
    IMHO, Kirk Cameron mainly uses evangelicalism to escape the realization that he's an artistically-stunted has-been. "Back in the 90s, I was in a veeeeeery famous teeeevee shooooooow…."

  5. I love that you make this comedic to a point but you make some really fantastic points. I was raised looking up to Kirk Cameron and extreme evangelicalism and it has been so healing to watch videos like this. Also you made me say “wow” out loud at one point. Thank you.

  6. I don’t think my message I posted actually went through, but the short of it was…

    I’m sorry for your loss. My father unexpectedly died at the end of October and it is brutal. I get it and I am so sorry.

    I don’t know your religious beliefs, but this was excellent. I’m a Christian minister in the church of Christ. (Others would classify us as conservative evangelical but I don’t care nor like any terms other than Christian.) There were just a few things I see a little differently or would have phrased another way, but by and large this was spot on. You were incredibly respectful and fair except for the one thing that deserved ridicule: their hypocrisy.

    I pray for your continued comfort with your loss. She must have been something special!

  7. Jeremiah 10:3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
    They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
    It says here that the customs of the people are vain, like the Christmas trees, and this Kirk Cameron obviously hasn't even read the goddamn bible.

  8. I’m so sorry about your grandmother. Your tribute to her in the end was beautiful, I don’t know either one of you but I’m sure she was proud of the woman you became.

  9. The St Nick punch is a terrible precedent as it advocates violence for a statement. Violence in retaliation for offense is what Cameron’s version of Christianity is all about

  10. I listen to Kirk and became violent and selfish, obsessed with my material advancement. Am I doing this right? This doesn't seem very Christian?

  11. boy he's really focused on the ham, he said it TWICE! btw xmas was never brought up in the bible, it actually says reject pagan practices. but Yule is nice. it has lots of HAM!

  12. The death shroud could not hold the body, and thus Yoda became a Force ghost so he could live forever haunt Luke with Luke's failures.

  13. Is Kirk actually a sociopath? He truly does seem incapable of caring about anything beyond inanimate objects (like giant hams), and things like fireproof shed a really weird light into his potential opinions on love and how relationships work in his world.

  14. I'm sorry Maggie, but please keep reviewing these awful pseudo-Christian movies.

    Also, I too liked the snowman, but feel free to meltdown and destroy your set for each one, if that helps you get through the horrific torture I'm asking you to endure.

  15. Gotta love the recurring lesson of prosperity gospel: if you are poor and hungry, it is because God hates you.

    Seriously, these people must use a sharpie to black out every passage in red in their bible.

  16. 44 disliked it. 5 k liked it. Interesting odds.

    I loved this video. I feel bad for those that believe that they will meet their loved ones again, it's like robbing them of something.

    I am sorry to hear about your Grandma. The best things we have are each other and our memories.

  17. I thought the presents under the tree represent the presents that Jesus got as a baby from the magoi who came after following the star!?
    I demand frankincense, gold and myrrh now!

  18. Ok, while I think Kirk Cameron is a gorgeous nutjob ( like Tom Cruise) as long as he isn't shitting on Christmas I'm actually ok with this interpretation. It's a breath of fresh air after the years of IT'S NOT ABOUT TREES AND GIFTS OR SANTA YOU AWFUL HELLBOUND HEATHENS KEEP CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! Every year we are inundated with why the stuff I enjoy is terrible.

  19. As someone who lost her grandma over 4 years ago and still really struggles with it at Christmas, please have my sympathies. Great video. My grandma was vegetarian so ham was definitely not wanted.

  20. I thought I couldn't learn anything new from people talking about these execrable movies. I was wrong. Thank you for this video.

  21. Most Christmas symbols are actually pagan in origin, derived from the celebration of Yule. Jesus was very non-materialistic. Kirk should be ashamed for distorting the gospel. I’m not saying celebrating with the traditional Christmas trappings is a bad thing, I love them, but don’t try to wrap them up in fake Christianity that just cheapens it’s original message. What we do now, mixing the religious and secular without trying to change either, seems to work pretty well for normal, sane people.

  22. hobby lobby buying smuggled iraqi archaeological artifacts is fun, because guess who is selling those? isis!
    In fact, the this might be their second most important source of income. So fuck you, hobby lobby

  23. After watching Midsommar this movie takes a darkly hilarious turn, as in both movies a guy named Christian is ended by an evil cult.

  24. My other favorite part is that Christian Materialism is already a thing (philosophically). It's centered around accepting Jesus as both spiritual and material (i.e. in a body). So, its whole own version of weird but also…not this. Well done evangelicals. Way to not even understand your own traditions. Here's the Catholic version from the former Pope based on the thought of the founder of Opus Dei. (Again, weird and creepy). https://www.escriva.it/Ing/19970301.htm

  25. Maggie, as much as I like you and your content.. I have to unsubscribe. You have ContraPoints linked on your channel page. He’s a perverted fool. I don’t understand how you make such intelligent analysis yet support that nefarious clown.

    Check out the playlist on my channel 🔎🧠 protect children – support LGB – DROP THE TQ

  26. Maggie, How do see and point out the cult nature of abrahamic religion, yet support the trans cult? The logic holes in their narrative? The narcissism, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence.

  27. I love your videos and your take on this, the most godawful, hilariously appalling specimen of its genre I have yet seen. Thank you. On a more personal note, I am very sorry for the loss of your grandmother, but glad you have memories that you will treasure.

  28. Why did it take me so long to realize the fireplace is cardboard and the "fire" is just an animated, looping, image pasted crudely on top?

  29. An actual Christian: I just don't see how a celebration of global consumerist capitalism reflects the teachings of Jesus?
    Kirk: WAIT! DiD i eXpLAin hoW YoU cAn USe RelIGIon 2 gET sTuFF?

  30. Kirk, as a child, was not given any hams by his mother. Even when he asked. As a result he has in adulthood, what we in the psychology field refer to as, "Ham deprivation syndrome."

    It affects more people than you'd think. Around Christmas time passing a Hickory Farms, Jews are particularly suseptible. Left uncheked, the problem can spiral out of control, much like a spiral-cut ham.
    In one of his seminars, Kirk discussed the empty feeling of finding out that a Hamburger was NOT made out of ham, which left him dispondent. That then leads to a co-morbid condition called "Ham-Hording."

    In Fact, Kirk's problem has gotten so bad that when filming he twisted his ankle and demanded that someone call him a "hambulance," which of course confused all the Christians on-set who looked up to him until that point. He then demanded "Call it quick. I want to be cured!"
    Of course, the onlookers couldn't figure out of it was some sort of pun. Later he clarified that it wasn't.

  31. Don't forget Ben Shapiro; talks so much nonsense so quickly, you don't have time to refute or even process the absurdity of his comments.

  32. I always suspected that true motivation behind these Evangelical wingnuts is not just religious fanaticism, but also greed and hunger for power.

  33. The film also gets the origins of many Christmas traditions wrong. The practice of using Christmas trees predates Christianity itself, the holiday itself was moved to co-opt the pagan holiday of Saturnalia, etc. I'm sure he doesn't care since he made this film to cash in on the supposed "War on Christmas" & to make excuses for materialistic Christians.

  34. He’s used his mythology to make money from the very beginning, why would he believe it was anything more?
    I mean, to be fair there are very few of those positive human truths in that enormous collection of writings, very few positive “teachings of Christ”. Blink and you’ll miss them.
    It’s always been ripe as a tool for abuse, monetary as well as otherwise

    Sorry about your grandma.
    I miss my grandma, too.

  35. My sympathies, Maggie. I lost my grandmother last month too. I was intending to give her a new jewelry box I made myself with a laser cutter. I wanted to cut images into it from her youth, so that she could literally feel the pictures because her sight had gone some years ago. Now I don't get too.

  36. goddamn kirk cameron is terrible. I remember him asking his "fans" to upvote this turd on rotten tomatoes. what is with all the… dramatic… pauses… between… words?

  37. I haven't even seen this movie yet. But you and Renegade Cut are just looking it through the sense of what it says about the "Prosperity Gospel", but that's only part of the debate in the film. There are other areas where Kirk is being the more progressive one, because this also directed at all those "Christmas is Pagan and evil" types who think we should celebrate ISIS destroying Palmyra. And because of that want to views stories about Santa and Grinches are pure evil we need to reject.

    Part of the problem is different definitions of Materialism are getting muddled together here. Maybe Kirk "can't imagine anything beyond the material realm" but making everything only about the spiritual is the root error of Gnosticism and Plato who invented Homophobia. I am strongly Anti-Capitalist, but I also believe the True Gospel is the Resurrection of our Flesh, I'm not interested in a purely spiritual heaven. And the fact is, in some ways Kirk's fictional Brother In-Law is being like Judas when he shamed Mary of Bethany, which Jesus then rebuked. A scene that is in JCS which you seem to love so much.

    There is a verse in Isaiah that refers to Pine Trees in the future Sanctuary. And the Swaddling Cloth to Burial Cloth connection is the kind of thing Christian writers have always done to connect the Old Testament to the New, from Matthew and Paul right on down through the Church Fathers to me explaining how I see Jesus everywhere in the Anime I watch.

    The notion that engaging in "Bible Coding' is meant to distract form the basic moral lessons is a ridiculous straw man, you can talk about both those subjects. But how we behave is indeed not the main message of The Bible, it's that Jesus will save ALL of us regardless. The New Testament is a fundamentally Anti-Religious text.

    About 12:41 in I realized you're kind doing the same thing Hellfire preachers do. The actual Gospel is bad because it's sufficient at getting us to behave. In my experience it's Faith that Jesus loved us unconditionally that leads to being like Christ, and all legalism does is lead to doubt and fear, and Yoda told us what fear leads to.

    The Prosperity Gospel's problem isn't that it too much focus on The Resurrection, it's that it doesn't actually see God's Love as truly unconditional, just a slight variation on how Calvanism works.

    The answer to the aspect of Christianity you're criticizing is Universal Salvation. But instead you're so materialistic you'd rather say no one gets saved.

    Vic Mignonna graduated from Liberty University. That's enough reason to conclude it's not a good school.

  38. Usually like your videos, and this one is ok…but I think you spent only about 10 actual minutes discussing the film

  39. The scene with St. Nick in Saving Christmas is my favorite trailer for Michael Bay Christmas movie that hasn't been made (but should be)

  40. This movie reminds me of the Onion news report where the white supremacists take over BET and make no programming changes. As a anti-religious person I am happy this movie is out there.

  41. i'm sorry about your gradma, hope you are feeling better and that the rest of the family is well too, so y'all can soport each other. Love the video, great message. sorry for the errors
    a fan from latinoamerica.

  42. Someone should do a video cutting together scenes from Kirk Cameron movies and clips from Star Trek showing Ferengi talking about the Rules of Acquisition.

  43. I'm sorry about your Grandmother. I also just lost a grandparent. The holiday time is the worst time to loose a family member. It can make their absence hit even harder, especially if spending time with family is a large part of one's holiday tradition. Anyway, great video as always.

  44. What’s wrong with cinema sins? I enjoy them poking fun at movies! But otherwise super super super great review!!! And excellent Star Trek reference!!! Really opened my eyes to what’s wrong with America and the world. It’s all Kirk Cameron’s fault

  45. And yet, for all of the reasons you list as to why they are bad, and bad Christian movies, are reasons as to why they are so loved by their fans.

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